Ngohlabathi ye-cryptography kanye ne-privacy-first blockchain innovation, ama-imeyili amancane afana ne-Howard Wu. Ukusuka ku-co-authoring i-protocol foundation njenge-Zexe ne-DIZK kuya ku-lancing I-Layer 1, i-blockchain eyenziwe ukususwa kwekhwalithi yekhwalithi, i-Wu iye ifakwe njenge-architect ye-zero-knowledge (ZK) isakhiwo. Waze Kule edition of U-Ishan Pandey uye uHaward Wu ukubuyekeza izakhiwo ze-Aleo, ukuguqulwa kwe-ZK cryptography, ukuxhumana phakathi kwe-compliance ne-privacy, futhi ukuthi kungenxa kokuphumelela kwe-computing ye-Personal ku-Web3 kunokwenzeka. HackerNoon "Behind the Startup" Hi Howard, kungcono ukwelashwa kwethu "Behind the Startup" uchungechunge. Sicela ushiye mayelana nenkinga lakho ku-cryptography futhi ukuthi uqala i-Aleo? Ishan Pandey: Hi Ishan, sincoma ukunikezela. Imininingwane yami ye-cryptography kunezinguquko enhle ye-mathematics - kuyinto isidingo esiyingqayizivele ukucacisa ukuthi ibonakalisa ukuthi ibonakalisa. Lokhu kuneziphumo emhlabeni wonke, kuhlanganise indlela engcono yokhusela idatha yethu yomsebenzisi ku-online futhi emzimbeni enhle. Howard Wu: Uma siphinde usebenzisa zonke izinzuzo web inikeza, kanjani singakwazi ukuvikelwa? Ngaphezu kuka-5 billion abantu usebenzisa i-internet namhlanje. Kuyinto ama-trillions ye-data eyenziwe ngabantu - ama-address ye-home, ama-social security numbers, ama-credit card numbers, futhi ngaphezulu kakhulu imininingwane yomsebenzisi, njenge-records zempilo. Ngingathanda ukuhambisana noProfesa Alessandro Chiesa noProfesa Dawn Song njengomfundisi we-bachelor ne-graduate ku-UC Berkeley. Ngesikhathi yami e-Berkeley, ngithole i-Zexe research paper, okuyinto i-Zero-Knowledge Executions, kanye neProfesa Chiesa kanye namadoda abacwaningi abacwaningi e-ZK cryptography. Ngezinye, siqala Ukulungele ukuvelisa blockchain okuyinto ephakamile, ezingenalutho futhi ezisekelwe, ukunikezela abathengisi ukuvikela izinzuzo ezingenalutho ezisetshenziselwa izicelo zokusetshenziswa ezinzima ezinzima kuhlanganise ukulayishwa, idivayisi, nokuphendula. Waze Ukusebenza kwakho ku-Zexe kanye ne-DIZK kubalulekile kumhlaba we-ZK. Indlela yokufundisa ucwaningo lakho le-academic ku-real-world cryptographic infrastructure eyenziwe nge-protocols ezinkulu? Ishan Pandey: Ngithuba izifundo zebhizinisi, ndingathanda ukuthi ngithanda ukwenza umphumela emoyeni enhle nge umsebenzi yami yokufunda. Lapho thwebula i-Zexe research paper, ngifumana inani elikhulu lokuthumela kusuka ku-protocols eyenziwe kanye ne-VCs. I-Ethereum co-founder Vitalik wabhala ngithumela i-Zexe ku-Ethereum, futhi i-DeFi protocols njenge-Uniswap & Kyber wabhala ukusebenzisa i-Zexe ukwakha ama-dark pools eyenziwe. Howard Wu: Ngokusho ubuningi we-inbound interest etholakalayo, ngifuna ukuthatha umlilo wokuthengisa i-Zexe. Sikhala inkampani i-Aleo, okuyinto ibhokisi ye-Autonomous Ledger Executions Off-chain. Umthombo lethu lula: I-Bitcoin ibonise ukuxhaswa, i-Ethereum ibonise i-programmingability, & i-Zcash ibonise ubumfihlo. I-Aleo iyona apha ukuze ibonise zonke amabili. Ngemuva kokufinyelela i-seed funding yokuqala kusuka ku-Silicon Valley VCs emangalisayo, thina siphinde ekukhiqizeni i-smart contracts yobumfihlo kanye nokuvumela le paradigm entsha emhlabeni le-crypto. Sinikeza iminyaka emithathu yokuqala yokwakha, ukuhlolwa, nokuvumela isakhiwo sethu. Ngokuvamile, siphinde ukhiye uhlelo elidlulele ekubunjweni, ibhizinisi, kanye nokuvumelana ne-crypto. Futhi ngonyaka lethu yesithathu, sinikeza nje futhi wahlala i-Aleo ne-Coinbase ne-HashKey njenge-Day-1 launch partners yethu. I-Aleo isakhiwo i-blockchain eyi-private, e-programable usebenzisa i-zero-knowledge proof. Yini izinzuzo eziyinhloko zobuchwepheshe kanye ne-philosophical ekwenzeni i-platform eyenza i-privacy, ukusebenza, kanye ne-usability ye-developer? Ishan Pandey: Kusukela ku-2019 kuya kuqala ku-2020, sinikezela cishe ngonyaka ukuhlola indlela yokusungula i-Zexe ku-Ethereum. Sihlanganisa nabantu kusuka ku-Ethereum Foundation kanye ne-community grants team ukuhlola ukuthi kunzima ukuyisungula inkqubo ephelele ye-private efana ne-Zexe ku-Ethereum. Howard Wu: Phakathi nenkqubo, sinamathela inkinga elihle kakhulu. I-privacy ingangena kakhulu ku-publish-by-default blockchain. Ngokwesibonelo, ngoba i-Ethereum isetshenziselwa imodeli esekelwe-akhawunti, igesi ye-transaction ngamunye kufanele ibhaliswe ngokubanzi nge-address ebonakalayo. Futhi okungenani, i-blockchain ngokuvamile ayikho ama-primitives ekutholeni ukucubungula nokuphumelela kwe-private-state. Sihlala i-design tradeoff ye-bit-based system lapho siphindezile ukuthi elizwi le-crypto iyona i-algebraic. I-capability yokuvumela ukucubungula ukucubungula ngokwenene kubasebenzisi kanye nezicelo ziye cishe engath Ngokuvamile, sincoma ukuthi kufanele ukwakha i-L1 kusukela ekupheleni kwehlabathi. Sincoma ukwakha i-L1 okuyinto enhle-by-default, ZK-friendly, futhi intuitive for non-cryptographers ukuze ukubonisa amandla enhle ye-ZK. Kusukela ngosuku-1, isikhokelo sethu kuyinto ukuqinisekisa izidakamizwa - ngaphandle kwe-PhD emathemikhali noma i-cryptography - angakwazi ukudala, isetshenziswe, futhi isebenza i-private smart contracts ngaphandle kwe-friction. Sithile iminyaka eminingi ukuqinisekisa ukuthi isakhiwo lethu ye-blockchain yenza ukulawula kwegama elilodwa kanye nokufinyelela kwedatha (DA) enhle futhi esebenzayo kubasebenzi bethu. Nge-Provable, uxhumane ngokushesha ku-compliant, ukuhambisa. Yini ufuna ukholelwa ukuthi ukuhambisa ne-privacy akudingeka ukuhambisa - futhi kanjani i-Provable inikeza le ngcono? Ishan Pandey: I-crypto-payments ye-real-world ayikwazi ukufinyelela ukuchithwa kwe-mass until we offer transactional privacy for the end user. Ngithanda ukusabalalisa ukuthi kukhona izinzuzo emangalisayo ezihlangene ne-crypto-sellers - izinsuku zokulinganiswa okusheshayo, izinzuzo zokulinganiswa kwe-cross-border - kodwa izinzuzo zihlanganisa kakhulu. Ayikho umuntu ufuna zonke ulwazi yabo evela kumazwe yabo ezivela emangalisayo ukuze bonke, kuhlanganise abathengi, abacwaningi be-data, nezivakashi, ukuze ubone. Howard Wu: I-Aleo ibonise ukulondoloza kuzo zonke izinga ze-protocol stack. Ngokwesibonelo, wonke akhawunti e-Aleo ibhekwa nge-akhawunti yokubonisa key, okuyinto inokukwazi ukuchithwa kanye nokufunda ulwazi le-transaction. It ivumela i-compliance departments ukunikela ukulondoloza kwezimali kanye ne-on-chain access control kubangeli afanelekayo. Ngokwesibonelo, ungathanda ukunikela umkhakha we-intranet we-software ku-transaction chart kanye ne-metadata, ngokuvumela amabhizinisi we-fraud noma i-compliance ukulondoloza i-keys ukusebenzisa ukufinyelela kwegama le-transaction. I-Aleo ibonise imodeli entsha ye-application deployment kuqhathaniswa ne-EVM-based systems. Yini ukuguqulwa lapho abathengi bafaka ku-Aleo, futhi kanjani i-proof-zero-knowledge ibonise i-dApp paradigm? Ishan Pandey: I-Ethereum ayenzelwe ukuba yobumfihlo kuqala - njenge-blockchains ezininzi, iye yasungulwa nge-transparency emzimbeni yayo. Futhi njenge-blockchains ezininzi, i-Ethereum isebenza njenge-mainframe. Abasebenzisi zihlanganisa isikhathi lokhu ikhompyutha ehlabathini ephelele ukuze zithole ikhodi yabo ngezinyathelo ze-100ms isikhathi. Lesi-architecture ayikaze noma inikeza ubumfihlo kubasebenzisi zayo. Howard Wu: I-Aleo yenzelwe ukucubungula i-transactions ye-user futhi inikeza ukucubungula okuqiniso ngokusebenzisa i-ZK encryption. Ngokungafani nokuguqulwa kwelinye i-transaction ku-blockchain, ku-Aleo, abasebenzisi zithumela i-transactions nge-ZK proof of execution, okuvumela inethiwekhi kuphela ukuhlola ukuthi i-transaction yasungulwa ngokufanele. Ngokwenza lokhu, lapho i-Ethereum kuyinto mainframe, i-Aleo ibonise isivumelwano se-computing yomsebenzisi. Ukulethwa izinhlamvu zakho, uvikele idatha akho yomsebenzisi, futhi uqinisekisa ukuthi kungahlukaniswa nge-network yobuchwepheshe. Kuyinto isixazululo se-paradigm enhle kakhulu ye-crypto. Thola umugqa we-zk innovation - kusuka ku-zkVMs kuya ku-recursive proof systems. Yini ungathanda njengomthombo olandelayo olukhulu we-cryptography ye-zero-knowledge, futhi okufakiwe? Ishan Pandey: Izinyanga ezingu-2 ezidlulile zihlanganisa izidakamizwa nezidakamizwa ze-ZK. Ukukhula kwe-interest ku-ZK ubuchwepheshe lihlanganisa kakhulu. Futhi izicelo ze-ZK zihlanganisa kakhulu. Howard Wu: Ngingathanda ukuthi i-ZK iya kuba isibambo phakathi kwe-Systems ye-Web2 ne-Plattform ye-Web3. Ngokwesibonelo, ukuthuthukiswa okusheshayo ku-ZK e-identity solutions ibonise ukuthi i-ZK iyisisombululo emininzi yezimpendulo ezinikezayo ze-web. Ungasebenzisa i-ZK ukuze inikeze ukuhlolwa kwama-age. Ngokwesibonelo, ungathola ukuthi ungaphezulu kwama-18 ngaphandle kokubonisa idatha lakho lokuzalwa kumazwe wonke umphakathi we-web. Ngaphezu kwalokho, i-ZK inikezela ukubonisa ukuthi ungatholakala kumazwe ebizwa nge-OFAC, ngaphandle kokubonisa idolobha lakho. Lokhu kwandisa i-ZK ku-KYC / AML, lapho izinzuzo zokuhambisana nezimali z Izinkampani ezininzi zokusekelwe ku-privacy zihlanganisa nokuthuthukiswa ngenxa ye-developer complexity noma i-regulatory uncertainty. What strategies is Aleo using to onboard both developers and real-world use cases? Ishan Pandey: I-Aleo inikezela ukwandisa nokufundisa umkhakha olandelayo we-web3, ukuze abantu emhlabeni wonke angakwazi ukujabulela amandla we-ZK cryptography ngokufanele. I-CodeSprint hackathon yethu inikeza abathengisi ukujabulela ngokwakha ama-dApps ezingenalutho emkhakheni ezinzima, kuhlanganise ama-stablecoins ezivumelanayo ezivumelanayo, izimo ezivumelanayo ze-private kanye nezimo zokusetshenziswa ze-defi njenge-lending kanye ne-lending protocols. Thina uzothola imizuzu ye-akhawunti ezidlulayo ngokushesha. Howard Wu: Ukubambisana ne-Google Cloud, sinikeza abathengi nge-ZK infrastructure kanye ne-datasets, njenge-One-Click Node Deployment yethu emakethe yayo, ukuhlanganiswa kwedatha ye-Blockchain ye-Aleo ku-Google BigQuery, kanye neziphakamiso ze-Google Cloud for Startups. Qiniseka ukunakekela futhi usahlanganyela umlando!